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Sun Mar 07, 2010 11:35 pm

 I Think it's Time...
........to ask ourselves an important question. Who supports our troops? Is it someone that thinks it is a good thing for soldiers and sailors to be put in harms way, to fight an invisible enemy. Or is it me? Bring them home. Let the CIA deal with it.


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Sun Mar 07, 2010 11:40 pm

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I absolutely support our troops...without them we would not have the freedoms that we enjoy.....


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Mon Mar 08, 2010 3:18 am

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WHEN I PUT IN MY THREE YEARS, 16 MONTHS IN KOREA I HOPED THAT WOULD BE THE LAST TIME ANYONE WOULD HAVE TO GO TO WAR, BUT IT WAS'NT. WE HAD VIETNAM AND NOW THIS WAR AND WE WILL NO DOUBT HAVE MORE IN THE FUTURE. WE MUST FIGHT THESE WAR'S TO KEEP THE FREEDOMS WE HAVE. I CAN NOT IMAGINE LIVING THE WAY SOME OF THESE COUNTRIES LIVE UNDER THE CONSTANT THREAT OF BEING BOMBED AND MURDERED JUST BECAUSE THEY DON'T BELIEVE WHAT THE ARE TOLD UNDER THE THREAT OF TORTURE OR DEATH.

WHAT WE NEED IS A LEADER TO GET US OUT OF THERE AND LET THEM FIGHT IT OUT THEMSELVES.

GOD BLESS OUR TROOPS.

GOD BLESS THE U.S.A. :usa-flag-89


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Tue Mar 09, 2010 1:25 am

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As an ex-Marine, I totally support our troops and I understand that we need to be in wars that may not be popular. I appreciate our freedoms won by fighting in wars for over 90 years. We would be speaking German or Japanese if we had not taken the steps to protect our borders and our people. I was in the Viet Nam era and eventhough it was an unpopular war our troops did what they were called upon to do.

God bless every man and woman in uniform wherever they are serving.

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Wed Mar 10, 2010 12:51 am

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granpaw wrote:
WHEN I PUT IN MY THREE YEARS, 16 MONTHS IN KOREA I HOPED THAT WOULD BE THE LAST TIME ANYONE WOULD HAVE TO GO TO WAR.

That is one awesome sentiment, granpaw.


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Sun Mar 14, 2010 12:47 am

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I have learned three things from this thread. One is that country girl will applaud any comment that she perceives as a conservative statement.
Secondly, while granpaws heart is in the right place, he quotes Gore Vidal, and gives him no credit.

Third, thanks to fordcpe. I don't see everything in black and white.


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Sun Mar 14, 2010 1:11 am

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hmmmmmmmmmm.......what makes you think that? What statement did you make? I read a question...I answered it...

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Sun Mar 14, 2010 9:09 pm

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You made the statement, and then waved your little American Flag. Maybe you missed the point of this thread. I didn't ask, "do you support the troops?" My question is this. Do you support our troops because of a right wing ideology, like world domination? Or do you support our troops because you think that they should be defending our own borders? Either way, it's costly, and it means bigger government.

We'll get into the inconsistencies of conservatism ideology another day.


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Sun Mar 14, 2010 11:07 pm

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I think you like to make more of things than you should...I love to wave my flag, Im a proud American and I love and support our troops...no matter what. :usa-flag-89 :usa-flag-89

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Mon Mar 15, 2010 3:19 am

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Madison_Lefty wrote:
... do you support our troops because you think that they should be defending our own borders? Either way, it's costly, and it means bigger government.

We'll get into the inconsistencies of conservatism ideology another day.



The Preamble to the Constitution reads as follows:

We the people in order to form a more perfect union establish justice insure domestic tranquility provide for the common defense promote the general welfare and secure the blessings of liberty to ourselves and our posterity do ordain and establish this Constitution for the United States of America.

Supporting the military by providing for the common defense is specifically mentioned in the preamble to the Constitution. As warfare progresses, so must our military. You don't show up to a gun fight with a stick. Yes it is expensive but it is granted by the original founding documents of our great nation. The most generous nation on the planet.

Granting healthcare, social security, unemployment compensation, industry bailouts, bank bailouts, insurance company bailouts, housing, food stamps, roads, bridges, police, fire, EMS, etcetera are NOT granted by our Constitution. Those latter listed "rights" are and should be States rights only as voted on by the individual States. The Federal Government has taken too much power away from the States at a much higher cost than Military. These other "rights" also are under funded and no longer have the funding necessary to survive.

These "inconsistencies" you mention are are the only consistent government function that is granted by the Constitution that has a direct financial cost. The others are free because of our military and their commitment to keep our country free and preserve those freedoms granted us when we seceded from England and the totalitarian rule of the King.

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Wed Mar 17, 2010 2:08 pm

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Waterfront,

Well said and absolutely true. Our government is, right this minute, trying to use every back room ploy possible to pass a healthcare bill that will cost over a TRILLION dollars and will be paid for by taxes on the backs of the American people who are struggling to survive. Liberals think that is just great.

I had dinner with 7 Canadian friends who live here six months of the year and we spent about two hours here in my home talking about government run healthcare. It has some good points but even they admit that there system does not meet the needs of the Canadian people.........especially in elective procedures. They wait up to two years to get treatment that is not considered one of the govenment immediate healthcare issues. Pain and suffering from needing knee replacements, hips and other procedures is not a priority. I had a Canadian friend who spent nearly $ 50,000 dollars out of his pocket to get a back surgery done in Tampa because he could not get approved for it in Canada.

We spent 800 billion dollars on bank bailouts and NOTHING has changed. Banks are failing every day. I do not know nor have I heard of ONE person who has gotten a job from the so called stimulus package. Florida as a state has 11.9% unemployment and the area I live in has 14.1%. Homes are still being foreclosed at a rate of over 2000 a month here in Lee County.

Forget a trillion dollar healthcare bill. Forget bank bailouts. Put the money into a means to put people back to work. We need JOBS! Stop foreclosures on unemployed people. Stop the care of illegal immigrants and put those billions to work helping people who are citizens of this country. The healthcare system in Lee County is in chaos because of the illegals flooding the emergency departments in every hospital in the county. The schools are dealing with thousands of illegals who not only cost heavily but also strain the system with language barriers.

This is not a liberal or conservative issue. It is a survival issue. We need to do what is needed to survive and forget all the other government plans that can wait a year or two when we might be better prepared to deal with those issues.

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Wed Mar 17, 2010 2:14 pm

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We have jerks like Dennis selling his vote so that his wife can stand beside the first lady for her cause....making us all vegetarians...lol

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Wed Mar 17, 2010 5:58 pm

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If Kucinich had a brain he would take it out and play with it if it were large enough to hold in his hand! :yup

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Wed Mar 17, 2010 11:14 pm

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Thank you to all who served either in peacetime or war.

I am not a veteran and for reasons (good or bad) did not serve in the military.

My Father was in Korea, and my Uncle served for life in Korea and Viet Nam and beyond.

Thank you to all who have scrificed their freedoms in life to preserve us who did not serve our country.

I believe a soldier is a soldier is a soldier who greatly scrifices their freedom in peacetime or war for the betterment of all.

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Thu Apr 08, 2010 6:57 pm

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i think that people who continually point out there were no 'w.m.d.''s in iraq must not be master level chess players. that's thinking inside the box. right? i'll explain more perhaps another day.


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Thu Apr 08, 2010 7:36 pm

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Oh there were WMD's even the Clinton administration recognized this.

Those weapons are either buried deep in the desert or in Syria..........

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